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good evening, everyone. 7:00 eastern here on the east coast here in the cnn newsroom. >> we begin with breaking news from israel. a temporary truce may be hours away. israel defense forces say there will be a seven-hour humanitarian pause starting 3:00 a.m. eastern time in gaza, except for the area of rafah.
it has experienced a lot of fighting and it is right by the southern border. israel will "reply with fire." the u.s. is using its strongest language yet to condemn today's deadly shelling near another united nations school being used as a shelter for 3,000 people in gaza. we know nine palestinians were killed. this is being used as a shelter for thousands of palestinians right in southern gagaza. the united states is appalled by today's disgraceful shelling outside a u.n. school in rafah. the coordinates of the school, like all u.n. facilities in gaza, have been repeatedly communicated to the israeli defense forces. it also said israel must do more to meet its own standards and avoid civilian casualties. >> the israeli defense forces say they targeted three palestinian islamic jihad members riding on a motorcycle in the vicinity of the school. idf tells cnn militants have
made a special effort to fire from u.n. facilities in recent weeks. we want to go to our senior international correspondent matthew chance in jerusalem. matthew, we had this announcement of the cease-fire starting tomorrow. seven hours. but it has a limitation. it's not going to operate in areas of the south in rafah where israel has been conducting the bulk of their anti-tunnel operations. that's where the cease-fire on friday broke down. does this latest cease-fire attempt have legs, do you think? >> reporter: it's also the place where that latest attack on the u.n. shelter that you just mentioned that was so severely criticized in the u.s. took place as well. so it seems that that area of the southern gaza strip of rafah will not be part of this humanitarian pause as the israeli defense officials are calling it. and we assume, then, that the military operations there which have been intensive and extremely deadly will continue.
for the rest of the gaza strip, though, this is going to be welcomed relief in what has been a growing humanitarian catastrophe according to the united nations. spread of disease. the lack of water, electricity. this is an opportunity for those humanitarian needs to be met on the condition, of course, that hamas does not fire at israeli forces and into israel during that period. if that happens, israel says it will fireback. so it will extend to a large extent, this humanitarian pause, on the compliance of the militant group hamas. jim? >> matthew, thank you very much. i want to bring in youssef for his views on this truce. one weakness of the attempted truce on friday was that it allowed military actions inside gaza. we heard the hamas leader saying, listen, israeli forces were operating there, so we responded. this one would seem to have that
same weakness here. what do you think the chances are of this cease-fire holding? >> reporter: well, it doesn't look very good, honestly. a cease-fire requires that both sides cease fire. if they are operating inside the gaza strip and firing the way that they did particularly today in rafah with heavy artillery at all the civilian houses, this is certainly not a cease-fire at all. a cease-fire means that there has to be an end to fire. and usually, you know, ulilaterally declared fires are not going to stand for very long. they have to be agreed with on with clearly defined terms and zero hours as well and with enough time before those zero hours so everybody can get word of it and so on so everybody can abide by it. so this approach to unilateral cease-fires, you know, it would be great if it did work, of course, because the civilian
population, particularly in the gaza strip, is facing a humanitarian catastrophe. but it doesn't look like it will be work or be reliable if they continue operating inside the tp gaza strip. >> you need pause to begin talking. when you have this carnage every minute of every day it is hard to sit down and talk about how to out. there must be some value in something of a cease-fire even if it doesn't cover the entire territory. >> certainly if in fact, people inside the gaza strip are able to get access to humanitarian aid and supplies and have some relief from the horrific attacks, then, yes, absolutely. that would be great. but in terms of whether this can move the situation forward, it's unlikely to do so if the parties are going to continue to be exchanges fire in certain parts of the gaza strip. what we need here is direct and
immediate international intervention to bring this to an end. i don't think it can be left to the parties themselves because you have this massive imbalance of power between one party and the other. of course the israelis being that strong a party can constantly use their position of power to have their way in the gaza strip. and that's not a formula for a successful cease-fire. you need intervention and you need an end to these attacks in gaza. >> thank you very much from the palestine center in washington. and cnn national security analyst, former cia and contact with hamas, studied them very closely. bob, at the risk of sounding like a pessimist here, is this not the complete breakdown of the process here? even for a cease-fire, it's unilateral. the two sides weren't talking even about a seven-hour cease-fire just to allow some aid to move around the gaza strip to some of those stricken families. what prospects does this give for something that's going to be a more lasting way out of this conflict?
>> reporte >> you know, jim, there aren't the lasting elements of a truce here. it is like two boxers, they will slug it out until one goes down completely. the longer this goes on, the wider impact it will have across the middle east. don't forget we have -- fellow travelers fighting in libya, syria, in iraq. i have never seen the middle east this bad in 35 years dealing with it. in the&this has a huge effect on these regimes. and the fact that countries like saudi arabia are staying out of it. as is the united states. and we do need humanitarian assistance in there really fast or, you know, it could turn into something much bigger. >> it is almost hard to keep focused, right? >> yeah. >> we'll talk about syria, where
the death toll continues to mount every day. you have iraq going on. you have tensions in afghanistan. and now this. >> absolutely. before we let bob go, if you're still with ussive another question for bob. we talked about this yesterday. i think it's critical when you look at that has's ability to continue to operate here. it has lost the support of states across the middle east, except for qatar. and there are reports from selmon. sit losing in terms of its supply chain. do you get the sense they are willing to go all out. we have over 1,800 casualties. are they all out until they run out? >> you are absolutely right. this is their last hoorah. the egyptians are really going after these tunnels where they have been supplied before. iranians have cut way back on supplying hamas with weapons. they have within been using sophisticated weapons,
anticipate-tank weapons, mortars, various explosives. they are running out. so they're going to get what they can now and they're not inclined to stop now and give up these weapons. this may be their last chance. so they intend to fight to the finish as well as israel. >> you heard that from benjamin netanyahu in his address yesterday. bob baer, thank you. straight ahead on the newsroom, we will talk about what jim just brought up. another big battle ground. isis may have faded from the headlines but it is still very much going on. today another significant move there on the part of isis. how big a terror threat is it right now and could its power grab in iraq lead to militants to take on a bigger target. we'll dig in next. that it's given me time toabout reflect on some of life'seen biggest questions. like, if you could save hundreds on car insurance by making one simple call,
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learn the body language and spot a stroke f.a.s.t. welcome back. with much of the world's focus on the newly ig nighted conflict between israel and the palestinians in gaza, the military groupon a violent march through iraq has been making major gains. here on the so-called triangle border shared by iraq, syria, and turkey, fighters that call itself isis posting a message saying they reached that crucial three-way border. and very importantly, they say they now control iraq's biggest hydroelectric dam. rick francona is here and national security analyst bob baer. first, let's start with the gains inside iraq. they have been significant from
isis in the last 24, 48 hours, capturing this dam, which supplies most of the electricity to mosul. but pushing back the fighters who have had the most success against isis and creating an oasis of security in iraq. how significant are the gains and what does it show about the strength inside iraq? >> we thought isis would lose strength. just the opposite is happening. they're gaining strength. people are siding with them now. we see them grow in strength. they are taking on the dam in mosul, taking on the dam in adetha. they are starting to issue license plates. they believe this is now a country. this is dangerous. because what they do inside that state is going to center a big effect on how we have to deal with this threat. and i think it's going to be a threat in the future. so i don't see any signs of stopping right now. they are continue to go move. why they are going after it is a little puzzling?
it's a fight they don't need. >> just to remind our viewers, this is happening as you have several hundred u.s. military advisers on the ground in iraq. the first steps of usa to help the iraqi forces respond. bob, i want to bring you in. the other thing that's happening with isis is gains outside of iraq. you have them now up to the border with turkey. that's a u.s. ally and nato member. you have saudi arabia deploying some 30,000 extra troops along its board tore keep isis at bay. and despiit already straddles t cups. this is becoming a regional threat, is it? >> well, jim, i will be an alarmist. i used to get paid to do that and i will right now. but taking this dam is mosul is very disturbing. because they have let the water out, and they are capable of doing this, it would flood
numerous shia cities in the south. rick said they are beating the kurds surprised me. this happened at a major point for the kurds. they defeated and turned them back. these guys are on the move. and the people i talked to in mosul say they are starting to move assets towards baghdad airport. that they are within the 16 kilometer cone where they can get at airplanes for surface-to-air missiles. this is all sort of iffy, the intelligence. but it's what we have, an al qaeda state that exists in fact. and they are acting like a state. they are posing a threat to the entire region. >> issuing license plates. rick francona, has the u.s. response so far been up to it? >> well, we've kind of -- i think we're not really paying much attention over there. other focus, as you said, has been riveted on what's going on in gaza. and 300 people on the ground. they issued their initial
assessment and it was not good. you see what's happening. every time they meet isis they go back and forth. with the fire power and the air power and they are still not able to dislodge this, this is a disaster. and it's going to get worse as they move further south. they are coming down to tiger's alley. but now they are moving on samarra. it will galvanize shia. it is a holy city for shia. if they go after the airport, and they are moving south already, they are not stopping. it is amazing how fast they are able to move and how effective these guys can be. >> we talked a lot in a number of segments today about the incredible divisions in the region right now. all the competing interests, whether we're talking about israel and gaza or the crisis in syria and iraq. when you have isis threatening such a broad variety of country
scared by it, whether it's turkey or iraq or syria or saudis, jordanians, could isis be the threat that unifies them to push back or will they even concede that? >> what has the the saudis scared is isis will succeed, will set up a state. they have not only issued license plates, but they have lowered the price of food. they showed themselves to be more effective than mal ki's iraq. it will be a model for the gulf arab. isis is the most radical end of the muslim brotherhood. and the muslim brotherhood exists in saudi arabia and the uae and the rest of the gulf. and this will be encouragement to them. this is what has the arab regimes truly terrified at this point. that's why they are moving troops. the future is wide open.
>> for sure. it's really hard to overstate the danger there. thanks very much, rick francona and bob baer. stunning developments in the case of a triple homicide featured on the new cnn program "the hunt." shasta county sheriff's office said the suspect featured on the show has been found dead. reaction from cnn's john walsh right after this. when i had my first migraine, i was lucky. that sounds crazy, i know. but my mom got migraines, so she knew this would help. excedrin migraine starts to relieve my pain in 30 minutes. plus, sensitivity to light and sound, even nausea. excedrin migraine works. this is the first power plant in the country to combine solar and natural gas at the same location. during the day, we generate as much electricity as we can using solar. at night and when it's cloudy, we use more natural gas. this ensures we can produce clean electricity whenever our customers need it.
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our dispatchers knew there was something very wrong at the scene. upon arrival, the officers found mrs. sandy miller murdered by gunshots. but what made it even more tragic, were seeing two young children dead. >> the cause of death was multiple gunshot wounds to all victims. >> it was very difficult even for the officers to handle.
>> the ammunition that was used was specifically a ballistic style bullet designed to do great harm. and induce a lot of trauma. >> as you can imagine, it would be a very, very bloody scene. one of the young children was nearest to a phone. we surmised it was the young child that had been 911 and the loud bangs especiallied up being gunshots, killing the children. being gunshots, killing the children.peciallied up being gunshots, killing the children. gunshots, killing the children.
gunshots, killing the children. gunshots, killing the children. gunshots, killing the children. gunshots, killing the children. gunshots, killing the children. gunshots, killing the children. gunshots, killing the children. gunshots, killing the children. shane miller became our main suspect almost immediately. we do know mr. miller was not at the scene when we arrived. one of his vehicles was missing. this would turn into a very extensive manhunt for mr. miller. >> who would have the insane sewseo pathic ability to mur the woman who loved you and turn the gun on two small beautiful little girls? it is unacceptable. >> well, tonight we have news about the whereabouts of shane miller. according to the shasta county sheriff's department, the remains of shane miller have been found in a creek in california. local law enforcement telling us at cnn the remains were found not far from where miller's truck was last located in petrolia last year. a hiker stumbled upon human remains and they were recovered yesterday and sent for testing.
today those results came back. authorities tell us they are 100% sure it is shane miller. joining us now on the phone is the host of "the hunt," john walsh. thank you for being with us. i want, first of all, your reaction to this. when you look at the police report just coming out. shane miller's wife, 34 years old. two daughters also killed, ages 8 and 5. your reaction to this news? >> great relief. i know firsthand that the two towns that he functioned in, petrolia and singletown, california were terrified of this man. when he went on the run, it was probably northern california's biggest man hunt. they found a bunker where he had over 100 weapons, 50 assault rifles with 100,000 rounds of ammunition. they not apbl wanted justice for sandy, the mother. and i'll say again, these are
the guys i hate the most, the people who prey upon children. but who could shoot their 5-year-old and 8-year-old daughter to death? these families and these two towns are breathing a big sigh of relief tonight that shane miller is off the streets. >> john, of course the question comes to mind is have you been in touch at all with local police about this? did they reach out to you after the hiker came to them? and also, do you have any details on when or how he was killed? >> well, the shasta county sheriffs and humboldt county sheriffs never gave up looking for shane miller. but the main search was called off. they had no clues. he's been out there over a year. so the shasta county sheriffs and the u.s. marshalls who were part of this manhunt said we have identified him by dental records. it's definitely shane miller. the body is pretty decomposed but he had i.d. on it.
again, it's just wonderful. he was the first guy that i profiled on "the hunt." he was one of the reasons i came back after 25 years of "america's most wanted." we caught 1,200 bad guys and recovered 61 missing children. it was a great run. i thought maybe it's time to wrap that up. you know, i decided to come back on cnn. and this guy was one of the reasons. he is just a horrible, violent guy. cops say he cold bloodedly killed his wife tried to get away from him and go to shelter for abused women. and i say to women all over the country, you've got to get away from these guys before they hurt you. those two little girls, if you listen to that 911 call, one of those girls were begging for help. and he allegedly murdered all of them. so it was a great way to get a very dangerous guy into the public's eye.
anonymous tip. i say thank you for helping law enforcement to fight back. >> and of course the images, i'm glad we have the images up of his daughter shelby 8 years old and shasta, and sandy miller, the mother, just 34 years old. before i let you go, john, this has been quite a week in terms of what has aired on the hunt and what has happened. another suspect, an entire focused on him. charles moser, a suspected child molester was killed in a shoot-out with nypd earlier this week. does it surprise you both of these things have happened this week. what's the reaction to that as well? >> well, he was on the run for two years. not a clue on him. it was a anonymous tips. we don't need to know your name. we just need to know where this guy s. i have to give a real
shoutout to the three hero cops. they tried to bring him in alive. they tracked him down. he shot three kopcops like the coward that he was. one nypd cop and two detectives had to shoot him in self-defense. that's another guy that i don't think law enforcement would have caught unless it was for the great, wonderful tipsters who called in and said, hey, this guy needs to be brought to justice. it's been quite a week. and i think lots of people are relieved that both of these guys are off the streets. >> john walsh, we appreciate you calling in. welcome to cnn. folks, you're going to want to stay right here locked on cnn. tonight, only here on cnn at 9:00 p.m., survivalists david berger crossed the line when he opened fire on police. now the hunt so. a brand-new episode of "the hunt with john walsh," 9:00 eastern, 6:00 pacific here on cnn. also straight ahead in the
newsroom, a sharp division of opinion about israel's war with hamas. it turns out your age could play a big role in how you view this crisis. we'll speak with four young adults after the break to get their take. stick around, guys. we'll be with you in just a moment. when you run a business, you can't settle for slow.
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and welcome back. in america, your views on the israel/hamas conflict may be influenced by how old you are. the majority of americans age 65 blame hamas for the recent round of violence. for the under 30 crowd, the millennials, one-third blame israel. we want to go deeper than the polls and numbers. we have a panel of millennials to talk about this generation and how it views the increasingly bloody conflict in the middle east, which involves a lot of child victims as well. >> absolutely. it's so important to have their voices concerning the social media element to all of this. a ph.d. student in jurisprudence. and efforter, journalist and international studies major at loyola chicago. and cnn summer intern. and shelby clayton, university
of georgia senior and advertising major. and chadwick smith, sophomore at ohio's college of wooster, double majoring in history and africana study. colin, to you first, do you feel like the youth voice has been in focus enough in this conflict? >> well, unfortunately i don't think it has been. i think the pew data is clear that our generation is divided and perhaps more likely to view israeli aggression with more skepticism if not negativity. unfortunately the decisions that are being made in this conflict are made by a generation much older than our own. so i think if our voice is to be focused we need to band together and reinvigorate our own ideologies on this issue. i think what we've got now is an otherwise political confrontation that has turned into a humanitarian crisis. i think that's something that my
generation can band together very strongly behind to influence the older generations that really have the decision-making power in the situation. >> that's an interesting point. shelby, i want to get to you on this. we heard martha tease, a branding expert, across the the media, the civilians, the child deaths in gaza as a result of this conflict, she believes in some ways, hamas is winning the perception war on this. what is your take given what you are seeing across social media, images we won't even show on television and what you are seeing in mainstream media. is there a perception being won? >> when you look at social media, it has such a huge influence on our society as well as our generation wide. so when i see the images especially with the dead bodies and especially on tv you sort of just get the image that you
negatively disconnect from what is being shown. and i think it is important to realize that our generation, when you look at older generation in the past, baby boomers and the generations before, there is a disconnect, more of a disconnect to what's going on in gaza and israel. when you look at students and millennials my age, there is a different perspective and experience that they are going through versus american mi millennial able to practice their religion in peace. at the end of the day, the power of social media, especially twitter and the power of a tweet can go very far. >> jim, to you, all evening you and i have been going back and forth sharing tweets from people on all sides of this. >> let me say i'm a little intimidated because everybody is a double major here i had just one major. >> me too. >> i'll ask you,ester, in your
generation, this is not far off from my generation, about six ahead of you. do you have anger about what's happening in the international world, dissatisfaction. but also a lot of people disaffected. they have given up on it. doesn't see how it can make a difference. ester, where do you think your generation's influence is. if you're not happy with the u.s. involvement, where do you see your influence? does it factor into who you vote for? is it what you wrote? what you tweet about? what you post on facebook? >> sadly, jim, as colin said, i don't think we can have an impact right now. the people who are making the decisions, the newsmakers in this conflict are not from our generation. our generation is divided. mostly because of social media. there is a disconnect between older generations and us.
and that doesn't mean we are anti-jewish or anti-israel. it just means we are not as support of violent means to solve a conflict. as i perceive and as i have seen in my facebook feed and twitter, we are more of a passivist/nonviolent generation. and that is clearly i think what we are seeing in regards to our impact in this conflict. a generation that doesn't want violence anymore. >> let me say, although you may be younger than the decision makers, trust me, they want your vote. don't discount your influence. we'll come back to the pam after this break with the question, is it possible for israelis and palestinians to wait for a new generation of leaders? will they have to wait for that before they have any chance of peace? we'll tackle that with this panel right after this break. w . looks like we're about to board. mm-hmm. i'm just comparing car insurance rates at progressive.com.
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all right. welcome back, everyone. we are joined again by our panel on the middle east crisis. a group of college students with us now talking about how millennials view the conflict between israel and hamas. we have students from across the nation. california, georgia, ohio and illinois. i want to start by reading this
quote it. stood out as i was reading the op ed in the "new york times". he writes in part, this is a generation of arab, palestinian and israeli leaders experts at building tunnels and walls. none of them ever took the course on bridges and gates. he goes on, how much creativity lately has gone into war making around here and how little into peace making. chadwick, this stood out to me most of what i read this morning. what is your reaction to what tom friedman wrote in terms of the effort going into war making and the tech nothing on both sides, versus into peace making? >> yeah. i think as leaders -- well, first, with the united states's involvement in this conflict, there are a surprising amount of larger groups of black and brown youth and brown leaders involved in this conflict. and we're going to be more involved and we're going to be -- like my co-person said,
peace. our generation is all about peace. so we're really going to be fighting for peace now. like i think that just goes along with the younger generations. we will be involved more with peace efforts and wanting peace in the middle east really. >> do you think -- do you have faith that the older generations right now, chadwick, in power can accomplish this, or do you think that it is going to take, you know, years until those in your generation are empowered to get there? >> i would hope the older generations would want peace. but as you get older, you get more stubborn. but i think once the younger generations come in and start becoming political leaders in the middle east, they really will want the peace efforts to increase. >> can i add on to that? >> sure. >> when we talk about leadership as well in the words of nelson mandela with his efforts in apartheid. he said in order to make peace through your enemy, you have to work with your enemy and then he
will be your partner. if we have and adopt that worldwide, we are able to make a difference that way, whether it's with this generation currently in power who have a more conservative view, or whether it will have to wait until we get into the younger generation. but i think that philosophy on making peace in general is just going to come from a collective effort. >> jim, let's hope we don't have to wait until the older generations, right? >> shelby, you make a fantastic point bringing up south africa. that was a conflict people that was just as in tractable as the israeli and palestinians or even northern ireland began. hundreds of years of history there. and people found a way. colin, i wanted to ask you a question. we talked about the middle east. but this is also a supremely political disagreement here in the u.s. about which side you support. and i just wonder, do you and your classmates, when you are making decisions about who you vote for, do you factor in -- is it a major factor for you how your representative, senator or governor stands on this issue?
>> well, unfortunately, i think the issue of whether or not we support the israelis actions or two-state solution or any of those other alternatives, i think that's an issue generally swept to the side in our domestic elections, particularly within our foreign relations discussions. i think what is important to understand, there is a knew answered distinction we need to understand about our generation. why individuals may be more tolerant of cultural, religious or political differences, our israeli counterparts are serving mandatory terms in the idf. though we may be more tolerant of the differences, our israeli counterparts are in the same formative years in a military defining the in groups and out groups and they define people like hamas as thyssese enemy to
national security. it is their culture we need to respect and try to unpack the >> fantastic point. please go ahead. i was going to say, fantastic point because in israel, the vast majority of young people serve in the armed forces as a matter of course. the wars that the u.s. has fought in afghanistan and iraq, a very small portion of the young population, your age group, actually were called on to fight because it's a volunteer army. but please go ahead. i want to hear what you have to say. >> i want to be a little skeptical on how this conflict can really be solved in one generation. i honestly don't think so. not only because as i said before, we are a generation more focused on peace and nonviolence in the u.s., in the western hemisphere. we are detached from that
conflict partly. it's our foreign policy that really impacts the world there but our peers in israel and gaza who are actually living this conflict, who grow up, who are growing up in the middle of this battle and who have actually studied it and can actually -- and actually have context, historical context on this entire issue, maybe they are not as into non-violence. maybe they are not as into a peaceful way of dealing with this issue. maybe they do support the current policies that their governments are following, that the groups leading that area are carrying right now so it's really easy to think that we can change the world, but the real
question is can the new younger generations there change the world and do they want to. >> yeah. you know what, you guys, jim, i have a lot of hope hearing from the four of you, a lot of hope for what is ahead. your insight is valuable, it is important. we are so glad you could join us on cnn tonight. keep the discussion going. thank you all for coming in. colin, esther, shelby and chadwick. the best of luck. i have no doubt we will see some of you guys in congress. no question about that. >> please note, i would like to transplant that conversation to the floor of the united nations. we would probably make more progress. thanks for joining us. earlier, poppy and i asked you to treat us with your views on how you think the fighting in the middle east is connected to you and the u.s. we had very strong reactions and strong opinions. we just wanted to read you a few of these tweets. i will start with a couple here.
yes, it keeps tensions brewing in the middle east and warmongering in the u.s. to sell military equipment and war. very strong view there. penny stone, it is connected in a large scheme of things to the u.s., bombs have not solved anything. >> also, we got this tweet from elizabeth, tweeting the israel-hamas fight makes americans less safe. it is a breeding ground for hatred and continued violence. and we got this, yes, we are already divided on the war on terror. now middle east politics, safety of our overseas assets at risk. thank you. continue tweeting us your thoughts on all of this. there are a lot of opinions on both sides. it's important that you let everyone know about them. thank you for those. also this right here in the united states, the news that two patients with ebola were brought to the united states has really surprised some people. it's begun an important discussion bringing that deadly disease to our country for the first time. but we will dig into what is reality and what is myth here. huh, fifteen minutes could save
from what you know, what was the purpose of this? >> we're at the migrant center. this is where the deportees arrive. >> within the tragedy of this plane being taken down, you have complete hostility around it. >> that awful task of going through the remains. we want to give you an update on the two american ebola patients. cnn has just learned the specially equipped plane to pick up the second ebola patient has just departed from georgia en route to liberia. nancy writebol will be taken to emory university hospital in atlanta for treatment.
we want to bring in dr. sherry fink now. dr. fink, to my knowledge, it's the first time an ebola patient has been in the u.s. are there ethical concerns with moving an infected patient into the country from so far away? >> well, i think certainly we were all surprised by this. some people were shocked. i have heard people saying that's selfish of them. but obviously, our public health officials here felt that any sort of concerns were outweighed by the benefits of, you know, having these americans have the right to come back home for treatment. i think they thought the risks were very, very small given the expertise of the facilities here. i think when it comes to ethics, there are even some benefits we might get from this. i have worked in a lot of emergencies and i think that we want our public health officials here, we want our medical officials to be able to treat things at a time when we might have an outbreak of who knows what. so even that practice they will get from this could be very helpful. >> something that's so important to know, over 700 deaths so far in just those three west african
nations, could go much higher. wso saying it will take months to contain it. there is no cure. there is no vaccine. there is no treatment at this point in time. when you look at the r & d dollars it takes to get there, a lot of folks would say it is not profitable so we may not see this come from big pharmaceutical companies. they are working on it. what is that, what do we know about that in terms of a treatment coming? >> yes, so we need -- that's exactly as you said. when there are far-off diseases that affect a few people, maybe we are not investing enough in it. so there is research going on but we need more and this shows us, this demonstrates we are all human. the world is connected and we do need money, research going into this and we need the very basic health infrastructure in these countries. i just talked to a doctor who came back from treating ebola and he said there wasn't even running water at some of the facilities. we need to pump that up so that, you know, stop the outbreaks before they spread. >> gives you the sense of the devastation. appreciate the expertise all
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